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Here is an awesome deck :D
« on: January 22, 2010, 12:44:49 AM »
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Here is my deck Im new. (But I've played redemption six years) Please tell me how to improve it.

Also, please rate it on a scale 1 to 10.

Cards in deck: 50
Lost Souls: 7
   Lost Soul (1st round)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shame)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 1
   Raiders' Camp

Artifacts: 1
   Chariot of Fire

Silver Heroes: 3
   Captain of the Host
   Seraphim
   The Strong Angel

Red Heroes: 3
   Abishai
   Asahel
   Heldai

Gold Heroes: 3
   Israelite Archer
   Shamhuth
   Simeon

Green Heroes: 1
   Benaiah

Blue Heroes: 4
   Helez
   Ira
   Jacob
   Tribal Elder

Purple Heroes: 2
   John
   Prince Jonathan

Crimson Evil Characters: 7
   Ashpenaz
   Gomer
   Nebuchadnezzar
   Nebushasban
   Nergalsharezer
   Red Dragon
   The Imperial Guard

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 10
   Apprehended
   Arrogance
   Axe
   Carried into Exile
   Coliseum Lions
   Great Image
   Head of Gold
   Nebuchadnezzar's Dream
   Swift Horses
   Wages of Sin, The

The ultimate band combo is in here. Can you find it. The numbers ad up to 61/56 It has to end with captin of the host.(I like to call captin of the host capt'n crunch, lol)

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 02:34:19 AM »
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I would definitely take out Shame LS for Wander LS.  If you draw Shame in your opening 8 cards it is pointless.  On the other hand, with no female heroes in your deck you'd definitely want to swap your Wanderer LS for their Female Only, or Two Liner, or NT only, etc.  Also put in more Artifact removal than just DON (Lying Unto God, Captured Ark, etc).  If they have Household Idols on their first turn, and your DON is at the bottom of your deck, you're in trouble.

Can you remind me what Prince Jonathan and Helez do again?

Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 04:10:56 AM »
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I would definitely take out Shame LS for Wander LS.  If you draw Shame in your opening 8 cards it is pointless.  On the other hand, with no female heroes in your deck you'd definitely want to swap your Wanderer LS for their Female Only, or Two Liner, or NT only, etc.  Also put in more Artifact removal than just DON (Lying Unto God, Captured Ark, etc).  If they have Household Idols on their first turn, and your DON is at the bottom of your deck, you're in trouble.

Can you remind me what Prince Jonathan and Helez do again?

Thanks for sharing!
Jonathan bands to a hero with a reference from I Samuel. Helez does the same as Heldai

Apprehended and Wages of Sin I would take out. a Go into Captivity would be good to add. not sure what you'd add for the other slot.
I would also put Arioch in for Gomer.
also, you need some protection for your chariot. a Tabernacle and Lampstand would be good, because one Wrath and you're toast. and I'd use Mary mother of James instead of John. I'd also take out Prince Jonathan because I don't see anybody he can band to.
a Grapes, Mayhem and a Harvest Time would be good adds so you can get your opponents lost souls up quicker.

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 04:38:37 AM »
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feels srry  when ashera poles pops up

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 03:00:34 PM »
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feels srry  when ashera poles pops up
yeah, Asherah Pole, G-Cow, Confusion of Mind and Holy of Holies would kill this deck. all you have to stop that is DoN, which could be stopped by Lampstand.

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 03:05:33 PM »
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needs Lying unto God
and i think you should modify your offense
any player with a destructive defense can take out your offense easy if you don't have enhancments

i'll build it, tweak it, and post it

what's the use in prince jonathan without any version of david?
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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2010, 03:51:27 PM »
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ok here it is tweaked

i decided to make this a genesis/babylonian deck

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shame)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan

Fortresses: 3
   Headquarters at Riblah
   Raiders' Camp
   Wall of Protection

Multi-Color Sites: 2
   Dragon Raid
   New Jerusalem (site)

Artifacts: 3
   Burial Shroud
   Chariot of Fire
   Stone Pillar at Bethel

Blue Covenant Cards: 1
   Covenant of Noah

Blue Heroes: 8
   Asher
   Dan
   Jacob
   Leah
   Levi
   Rebekah
   Simeon
   Zebulun

Blue Hero Enhancements: 7
   Abraham's Servant to Ur
   Answer to Prayer
   Jacob Buries the Foreign gods
   Journey to Egypt
   Obedience of Noah
   Reuben's Torn Clothes
   Sign of the Rainbow

Crimson Evil Characters: 8
   Ashpenaz
   Babylonian Forces
   Gomer
   King Zimri
   Nebuchadnezzar
   Nebushasban
   Nergalsharezer
   Red Dragon

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Lying Unto God

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 8
   Apprehended
   Axe
   Carried into Exile
   Coliseum Lions
   Great Image
   Head of Gold
   Nebuchadnezzar's Dream
   Swift Horses

if anyone wishes to tweak my version by all means go ahead and tweak away

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 05:47:37 PM »
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You didn't "tweak" it. You built a new deck.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 06:18:53 PM »
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You didn't "tweak" it. You built a new deck.
well, you may have "tweaked" the defense a little, but that's nothing like the original.

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2010, 06:44:54 PM »
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well i decided to change the whole offense together cause the offense he had won't win many games

i apologize for trying to help

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 06:51:23 PM »
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well i decided to change the whole offense together cause the offense he had won't win many games

i apologize for trying to help
it'll work, he just needs some more then just that. I'd rate this deck as a 5. you do need a Lying unto God in there. as well as a Brass Serpent and a few of the Armor of God enhancements. use Moses instead of Shamhuth. and take out your red, you can band, yes, but there's no sense in getting too big because your opponent will never get that high. once I had a 112/117 band that was CBN immunity. what's the point? I could have easily used a 30/30 band and won.

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Re: Here is an awesome deck :D
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 08:31:49 PM »
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once I had a 112/117 band that was CBN immunity. what's the point? I could have easily used a 30/30 band and won.

The point is to demoralize the RLK so he won't fight back at all :P
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 08:43:48 PM »
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once I had a 112/117 band that was CBN immunity. what's the point? I could have easily used a 30/30 band and won.

The point is to demoralize the RLK so he won't fight back at all :P
pretty sure that was against an adult... but I don't remember who. might have been Wolfe.

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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2010, 02:38:23 PM »
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30/30 wouldnt get past my speed deck.(its not that one)
I could have ish, lahmi, band to golith with his spear. 10/10 + 8/10 + 10/10 + 8/10 = 36/40 and I could make it higher than that.

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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2010, 03:33:40 PM »
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30/30 wouldnt get past my speed deck.(its not that one)
I could have ish, lahmi, band to golith with his spear. 10/10 + 8/10 + 10/10 + 8/10 = 36/40 and I could make it higher than that.

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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2010, 07:15:47 PM »
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30/30 wouldnt get past my speed deck.(its not that one)
I could have ish, lahmi, band to golith with his spear. 10/10 + 8/10 + 10/10 + 8/10 = 36/40 and I could make it higher than that.

King Leo

but Leo, you need to realize that higher numbers are a player's weak point in the feild of battle and if you have higher numbers and the battle isn't by the numbers, then your opponent pretty much MIGHT have the battle won.
im not saying higher numbers win or lose battles but depending on what you and your opponent has, you can win battles with fbtn but it's more likely he'll pick at your defense and leave your lost souls wide open for rescuing which isn't good.
what i suggest you do is focus on what's in your deck and focus on the cards that are available to you on RTS, because RTS has cards you don't even have in real life.
be sure if you are to tweak your deck to study your deck very carefully and also play what i like to call "Assume Games"
their games you play by yourself and assume your opponent has what card and plays their making and that could determine the differance in a game.

hope that helps!  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2010, 07:57:54 PM »
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if your loaded up with negates it might work man.

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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2010, 08:07:35 PM »
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negates will work if the queen of wonderland doesn't say "off with his/her head!!!" with cannot be negated cards like aocp and a child is born  ;)  :laugh:

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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2010, 08:22:47 PM »
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yeah on the defense i thought you metion the offnse

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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2010, 08:27:38 PM »
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includes the offense too.
his offense can get picked by his opponents if he's unfortunate to play against people with high places and place enhancments that destroy his deck,hand and territory

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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2010, 08:48:05 PM »
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um, Red, Raven, have you ever played a Philly deck? they don't need initiative because A. They have Namaan's Chariot and Horses (with Ashdod) and Philistine Chariot and Horses. not sure how Philly's would be effective in a speed deck... oh, and B. they have that FooF negate and Mid Attack.

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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2010, 03:42:51 AM »
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um, Red, Raven, have you ever played a Philly deck? they don't need initiative because A. They have Namaan's Chariot and Horses (with Ashdod) and Philistine Chariot and Horses. not sure how Philly's would be effective in a speed deck... oh, and B. they have that FooF negate and Mid Attack.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2010, 05:18:28 AM »
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wraith, your reply is overruled cause im playing a deck with philly defense and quite frankly, my relationship with the philladelphia phillies isn't as good as me and some pharisees who are "sad that you see" , but i haven't played pedro martinez and count reugen much so only time will tell how much better the phillies will do in class against the pharisee professors  ;)

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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2010, 05:33:05 AM »
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Pharisees =/= Sadducees
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2010, 03:03:22 PM »
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wraith, your reply is overruled cause im playing a deck with philly defense and quite frankly, my relationship with the philladelphia phillies isn't as good as me and some pharisees who are "sad that you see" , but i haven't played pedro martinez and count reugen much so only time will tell how much better the phillies will do in class against the pharisee professors  ;)
pretty sure you spelled reugen wrong, but idk how, so...
and he died. was killed by Inigo Montoya.

as far as Phillies go, perhaps your defense wasn't as good as others, but as far as I know, Philistines are better then Sadds (Pharisees weren't the sad ones. it wasn't there temple that was torn apart...)

but neither compare to Brown!

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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2010, 04:38:56 PM »
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um, Red, Raven, have you ever played a Philly deck? they don't need initiative because A. They have Namaan's Chariot and Horses (with Ashdod) and Philistine Chariot and Horses. not sure how Philly's would be effective in a speed deck... oh, and B. they have that FooF negate and Mid Attack.

I use them and I have 1 card that gets rid of that combo...12FG
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2010, 04:39:59 AM »
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um, Red, Raven, have you ever played a Philly deck? they don't need initiative because A. They have Namaan's Chariot and Horses (with Ashdod) and Philistine Chariot and Horses. not sure how Philly's would be effective in a speed deck... oh, and B. they have that FooF negate and Mid Attack.

I use them and I have 1 card that gets rid of that combo...12FG
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2010, 02:27:25 PM »
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Outpost Can bring him back via PAB.  8) 
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2010, 05:05:15 PM »
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Outpost Can bring him back via PAB.  8) 
Doesn't outpost say generic?
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2010, 05:06:36 PM »
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PAB is generic...
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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2010, 06:12:03 PM »
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can PAB be prevented?

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« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2010, 06:25:55 PM »
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Nope.

Philistine Armor Bearer

Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 6 / 6 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: You may exchange this card with an evil Philistine in your deck or discard pile. Evil Enhancements remain in battle. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Philistia, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: I Samuel 17:7 • Availability: Faith of Fathers (Set 6)
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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2010, 06:51:20 PM »
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um, Red, Raven, have you ever played a Philly deck? they don't need initiative because A. They have Namaan's Chariot and Horses (with Ashdod) and Philistine Chariot and Horses. not sure how Philly's would be effective in a speed deck... oh, and B. they have that FooF negate and Mid Attack.

I use them and I have 1 card that gets rid of that combo...12FG
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I would still get him in battle and push everybody back and then I could get him back neck turn when you don't have aotl  ;)
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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2010, 03:04:36 AM »
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/facepalm. I totally didn't figure that.
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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2010, 03:06:13 AM »
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ahh, I thought it could.
there are plenty of other ways around that though...