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If he says that is the ruling and has no dissent ... then it is the ruling.
Quote from: Redoubter on August 04, 2012, 03:05:17 AMIf he says that is the ruling and has no dissent ... then it is the ruling. This is not true. One elder rulings that change what has been the status quo are not official rulings. There needs to be elder support. This case, in particular, seems to have multiple different status quos, depending on where you live. We need a concensus elder ruling on this issue so that we can all have piece of mind, rather than continue the back-and-forth that seems to be getting a bit personal.
Prof U agreed with me, and you, and Pol, all in different ways, so I'm really not sure why you want to keep arguing
This is not about arguing, but about uniformity. Based on Wyatt's response (and I am assuming others would fall into his category), some REP's (possibly elders) are ruling that CoN can be used even against cards like DoU. This is a problem that cannot be addressed by four people that post regularly, only one of which is an elder. It is the people who are not on here much that concern me.
The rules for Special Initiative are very recent and are agreed to be correct.
My understanding is that ALL negates can be used in SI ( regardless of what they are) and CoN is just a really old Negate, and my question is if this one doesn't work like a proper negate, then when do any of the others?I would argue that all negates (or prehistoric Interrupt/Prevents) should be treated the same. Either all of them can Negate their target regardless of where it is or none of them do.Why make the game anymore confusing?
I don't personally use it in my main Deck, but I just thought I may as well just toss that out there, that is what I understood was that SI jumps to before the effect triggers/completes so DoU would be able to be stopped by CoN and it would be the same for TC Enhancements. But it may have changed since I've been online last (a month ago)
My initial response is that Covenant with Noah can be used during special initiative and cannot be used to negate Death of Unrighteous and the like.
Quote from: SirNobody on August 04, 2012, 05:05:49 PMMy initial response is that Covenant with Noah can be used during special initiative and cannot be used to negate Death of Unrighteous and the like.This is how I would rule on this matter as well.
then that either needs to be clarified or changed to reflect the way it is being ruled.
if the discussion of special initiative specified that it allows only for the playing of an enhancement, then that either needs to be clarified or changed to reflect the way it is being ruled.