Author Topic: 3 questions (Read 3216 times)

sepjazzwarrior · « **on:** February 28, 2011, 02:17:26 AM »

1) if i draw a hopper LS while i have the FBTN LS in play, is the hopper negated and it goes to my territory?

2) does priestly preastplate work as intended where you can activate in on a priest or does it have to be activated from artifact pile every turn?

3)was there ever an official ruling on if protection from evil cards means you cannot be discarded by the numbers?

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2011, 02:19:45 AM »

1. Yes it stays in your territory.

2. You can activate it on a Priest and then activate another artifact in your artifact pile, this works like Magic Charms, and other artifacts being activated on fortresses.

3. I believe you can always be discarded by the numbers, but not sure on this one.

The M · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2011, 02:19:49 AM »

2. I assume cards work as they are intended with a few special exceptions. coughanbsplitaltarcough

SomeKittens · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2011, 02:21:28 AM »

1.) Yes
2.) It counts as your artifact activation for the turn
3.) You can be discarded by the numbers.

KoalaKingoFA · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2011, 02:24:09 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on February 28, 2011, 02:21:28 AM

1.) Yes
2.) It counts as your artifact activation for the turn
3.) You can be discarded by the numbers.

I agree with one and two and I think three is correct.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2011, 03:16:24 AM »

Quote from: Crashfach2002 on February 28, 2011, 02:19:45 AM

1. Yes it stays in your territory.

2. You can activate it on a Priest and then activate another artifact in your artifact pile, this works like Magic Charms, and other artifacts being activated on fortresses. incorrect

3. I believe you can always be discarded by the numbers, but not sure on this one.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2011, 04:01:51 AM »

RTSManiac is correct. Priestly Breastplate must be activated on the artifact pile (eating up your activation slot there). Then it can be placed.

There was some discussion a while back as to whether Priestly Breastplate must be reactivated every turn or whether it would stay active while on a Priest. I do not believe this was ever resolved one way or the t'other, however.

The Guardian · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2011, 05:52:16 AM »

The difference between Breastplate and Charms is that Charms ability to be activated on a Magician is an identifier, whereas Breastplate is a special ability.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2011, 05:56:57 PM »

Ah! Duly noted!

The M · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2011, 09:51:54 PM »

Why is this stickied?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2011, 11:26:36 PM »

Because these questions come up every month or so. Once we add them to the FAQ we'll unsticky this and provide a link to the FAQ in it.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2011, 12:39:53 AM »

Are we sure on number three? I thought I remember Gabe saying Thad protects from numbers at the t2 only, but I was so tired I can't be sure.

Gabe · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2011, 03:17:32 AM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on March 01, 2011, 12:39:53 AM

Are we sure on number three? I thought I remember Gabe saying Thad protects from numbers at the t2 only, but I was so tired I can't be sure.

There is not a consensus on whether or not general protection (Thad, Protection of Angels) will protect from losing by the numbers. Some of the elders, including myself, believe that it does. Others do not. Honestly, this is one of the last major things we have to work out for the new REG.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2011, 03:19:09 AM »

So that means that you're close? Also, what do we lowly hosts rule it as?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2011, 07:42:22 PM »

protect should only protect from special abilities not numbers in my book.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2011, 12:01:42 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on March 02, 2011, 07:42:22 PM

protect should only protect from special abilities not numbers in my book.

, Thad is already powerful enough, to say he can't even be discarded would be rediculous.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2011, 12:06:22 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 01, 2011, 03:19:09 AM

So that means that you're close? Also, what do we lowly hosts rule it as?

You should do whatever you prefer, but announce how that's you would rule it before the tournament.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2011, 12:35:41 AM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on March 03, 2011, 12:06:22 AM

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 01, 2011, 03:19:09 AM
So that means that you're close? Also, what do we lowly hosts rule it as?
You should do whatever you prefer, but announce how that's you would rule it before the tournament.

That kind of inconsistency is problematic. "Protect" is officially defined as "protection from specified special abilities" in the Glossary. No host should rule otherwise until an official announcement from the Elders overrules this.

SirNobody · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2011, 05:50:39 PM »

Hey,

For the record, Bryon and I have been discussing the Thaddeus issue and are currently leaning towards saying he can lose by the numbers.

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 01, 2011, 03:19:09 AM

So that means that you're close? Also, what do we lowly hosts rule it as?

You could go with the current leaning as stated above. You could go with what your players expect (if everyone who shows up to the tournament expects it to be ruled one way it doesn't make much sense to rule it the other way). Or you could go with whatever argument makes the most sense to you personally. The most important thing is to make it clear to your players before the tournament starts which way you will be ruling.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #19 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:02:13 PM »

have we come up with a final ruling on these questions?

KoalaKingoFA · « **Reply #20 on:** June 02, 2011, 02:58:20 AM »

1.) Still a yes.
2.) Counts as your activation for the turn and unsure if you have to activate it every turn.
3.) Most-likely yes but could be ruled differently if people at the tournament have the opposite idea and it's being debated in the REG.

Bryon · « **Reply #21 on:** June 09, 2011, 03:32:45 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on March 03, 2011, 12:35:41 AM

"Protect" is officially defined as "protection from specified special abilities" in the Glossary. No host should rule otherwise until an official announcement from the Elders overrules this.

The Glossary is outdated. Count this part as official: the above should read:

"protection from specified effects"

If protect only protects from special abilities, then how do you "protect a lost soul from rescue by a hero"? Would that only protect against Primary Objective? Clearly, it protects against the rescue effect that heroes are credited for when they win a rescue attempt.

TheHobbit · « **Reply #22 on:** June 09, 2011, 05:53:56 PM »

So protection of angels and thaddeus protect against numbers?

SomeKittens · « **Reply #23 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:52:35 PM »

Given the above, yes.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #24 on:** June 09, 2011, 09:40:45 PM »

Quote from: Bryon on June 09, 2011, 03:32:45 PM

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on March 03, 2011, 12:35:41 AM
"Protect" is officially defined as "protection from specified special abilities" in the Glossary. No host should rule otherwise until an official announcement from the Elders overrules this.
The Glossary is outdated. Count this part as official: the above should read:

"protection from specified effects"

What are the "specified" effects, then?

I realize that this is too much to ask, but when can we expect to have any official documents that are not outdated? All I ever hear people say is to "check the boards." That's not good enough anymore. I spend too much time online as it is. I have a wife and kids that need my time, as well as my job(s). If the expectation is that hosts will have to be constantly online to know the rules and exceptions, then hosting just may no longer be for me.

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