Author Topic: To Many! (Read 2528 times)

hi123 · « **on:** January 17, 2010, 12:26:03 AM »

Do you agree that there are to many Dominants now? And have you ever had them all in one deck?
Grapes
Mayhem
SOG
NJ
Falling Away
Glory
CM
Burial
AOTL
Doubt
And what else-

Red · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2010, 12:29:19 AM »

harvest time
Grapes
Mayhem:not the most used but used none the less
SOG
NJ
Falling Away
Glory:meh never used
CM
Burial
AOTL
Doubt:ditto
*looks at list and freaks*not really.

hi123 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2010, 12:31:31 AM »

Quote from: RED on January 17, 2010, 12:29:19 AM

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Do you agree that there are to many Dominants now? And have you ever had them all in one deck?
Grapes
Mayhem
SOG
NJ
Falling Away
Glory:meh never used
CM
Burial
AOTL
Doubt:ditto
And what else-

not really
[/quote]That then makes 10 dominants!

Westy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2010, 12:35:46 AM »

Staples:
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of the Lord
Burial
Christian Martyr
DoN
Falling Away

Cards that go in most of my decks, but there are exceptions...
Grapes
Guardian
Mayhem

and in a few of my decks...
Harvest Time

and never at all:
Doubt
Glory of the Lord.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2010, 02:14:55 AM »

Staples
Sog
Nj
Aotl
Cm
Don
Grapes

And it isn't too much.

JSB23 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2010, 02:36:04 AM »

burial is mostly worthless

Red · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2010, 02:41:58 AM »

burial worthless i think not!!!!!!

Westy · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2010, 04:15:09 AM »

Quote from: JSB23 on January 17, 2010, 02:36:04 AM

burial is mostly worthless

a lot of times it is, but many many times it saves me. when you have a small defense, it's amazing.

hi123 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2010, 12:56:56 PM »

Quote from: RED on January 17, 2010, 02:41:58 AM

burial worthless i think not!!!!!!

I have to have Burial in my deck! Ill tell you why. I let my opponent rescue my 2-liner.Then I play falling away,then burial it,the perfect combo!If your opponent has GoYS out then let him halve half of a lost soul,then burry it!

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2010, 02:14:05 PM »

Quote from: hi123 on January 17, 2010, 12:56:56 PM

Quote from: RED on January 17, 2010, 02:41:58 AM
burial worthless i think not!!!!!!
I have to have Burial in my deck! Ill tell you why. I let my opponent rescue my 2-liner.Then I play falling away,then burial it,the perfect combo!If your opponent has GoYS out then let him halve half of a lost soul,then burry it!

Sog Nj on it. GG

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2010, 04:35:05 PM »

I don't use 2-liner for the reason RR just stated, lol.

I refuse to use anything that can potentially backfire and give them more points.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2010, 07:03:30 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on January 17, 2010, 04:35:05 PM

I don't use 2-liner for the reason RR just stated, lol.

I refuse to use anything that can potentially backfire and give them more points.

You don't use cards? :O

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2010, 07:14:20 PM »

Believe it or not, yeah... I don't use some cards.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2010, 10:26:02 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on January 17, 2010, 04:35:05 PM

I don't use 2-liner for the reason RR just stated, lol.

I refuse to use anything that can potentially backfire and give them more points.

Strictly using a cost/benefit argument, I would say the 2-liner is one of the most useful cards in the game. The ONLY way it can "backfire" is if you are somehow forced to give up the other half because your opponent doesn't have access to any other souls. I would say that in all my years of using the 2-liner, it has saved the game far more often than it has "backfired".

FWIW, the 3rd place nationals deck in 2004 had a strategy that revolved around Glory of the Lord protecting artifacts in the temple to shut down any common defensive strategy. It hasn't always been useless.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2010, 11:32:56 PM »

More often then not when I use it, the shuffler, Burial, and Hormah ALL manage to hide until after they got two points off it.

Shofarblower · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2010, 03:30:11 AM »

I do find that burial is a hit and miss dominant. Usually, if I bury a LS, it is because I only have one that my opponent can access. Then they invariably throw down HT and pull one out anyway. In the 2 liner/3 liner debate. I vote for 3 liner. I think it is fun to FA then Bury it just like everyone else. I also like to let them rescue it (or half) then when I hit 4 souls, throw down SoG NJ on female and 3 liner giving me 5 and them not getting that rescue. However since the new rulings about winning by 6 not being possible, and the NJ only on your own SoG, it makes this type of play less effective.

Isildur · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2010, 03:38:40 AM »

For me...
Staples
Son of God
Aotl

Cards I use in 90% of my decks + Staples
Don
CM

Cards that I normaly never get in time but still put in my deck
NJ
Burial
FA
Guardian

Doms I never use
All the Others :p

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2010, 06:46:43 AM »

Staples (in 95% of top decks):
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of the Lord
Grapes
Guardian
Christian Martyr
DoN

Standard (in 85% of top decks)
Harvest Time
Burial
Falling Away

Only in a few decks
Mayhem (this is in more currently because it's new, but I think it'll drop)
Doubt
Glory of the Lord

So that's probably 10 slots in a top deck filled with dominants. This is why we need the artifact suggested by someone that says, "If holder has not played any dominants this game, then discard this to remove all dominants from all players draw piles from the game." That gives people a choice of filling those slots with other cards or keeping the doms and risking losing them.

Westy · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2010, 04:32:02 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on January 18, 2010, 06:46:43 AM

Staples (in 95% of top decks):
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of the Lord
Grapes
Guardian
Christian Martyr
DoN

Standard (in 85% of top decks)
Harvest Time
Burial
Falling Away

Only in a few decks
Mayhem (this is in more currently because it's new, but I think it'll drop)
Doubt
Glory of the Lord

So that's probably 10 slots in a top deck filled with dominants. This is why we need the artifact suggested by someone that says, "If holder has not played any dominants this game, then discard this to remove all dominants from all players draw piles from the game." That gives people a choice of filling those slots with other cards or keeping the doms and risking losing them.

Mayhem>Grapes. Mayhem is honestly an awesome dominant that should be used in all decks. need an enhancement? Mayhem. opponent's playing speed? Mayhem. Opponent attacks you and you have nothing? Mayhem. Opponent searching? Mayhem. Opponent has RBD up? Mayhem... oops.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #19 on:** January 18, 2010, 05:58:04 PM »

XD Mayhem + going first = Play down all you can, as soon as they D3, use mayhem. You get 8+ cards, go first, and they get 6.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2010, 06:23:42 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on January 18, 2010, 04:32:02 PM

Mayhem>Grapes. need an enhancement? Mayhem. opponent's playing speed? Mayhem. Opponent attacks you and you have nothing? Mayhem. Opponent searching? Mayhem.

Grapes>Mayhem.
Fighting an EC you can't beat? Grapes.
Opponent's attacking with a hero you can't beat? Grapes.
Do that and still get to try again the same turn to get a LS? Grapes.
Blocking with an EC that bands to their EC, and want to stop their RA by killing their own EC? Grapes.
Blocking when you have nothing to back up your EC and still want to stop your opponent? Grapes.
Opponent killing you with the never ending combo of Wandering Spirit/Trembling Demon? Grapes.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2010, 06:33:06 PM »

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Opponent killing you with the never ending combo of Wandering Spirit/Trembling Demon? Grapes.

Won't help

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2010, 06:37:50 PM »

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on January 18, 2010, 06:33:06 PM

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Opponent killing you with the never ending combo of Wandering Spirit/Trembling Demon? Grapes.
Won't help

It will at least buy time while they are both shuffled into the deck before they turn up together again. Unless your opponent is willing to discard his whole deck with Gates to get to them again.

Westy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2010, 06:49:31 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on January 18, 2010, 06:23:42 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on January 18, 2010, 04:32:02 PM
Mayhem>Grapes. need an enhancement? Mayhem. opponent's playing speed? Mayhem. Opponent attacks you and you have nothing? Mayhem. Opponent searching? Mayhem.
Grapes>Mayhem.
Fighting an EC you can't beat? Grapes.
Opponent's attacking with a hero you can't beat? Grapes.
Do that and still get to try again the same turn to get a LS? Grapes.
Blocking with an EC that bands to their EC, and want to stop their RA by killing their own EC? Grapes.
Blocking when you have nothing to back up your EC and still want to stop your opponent? Grapes.
Opponent killing you with the never ending combo of Wandering Spirit/Trembling Demon? Grapes.

need an enhancement to kill that EC you can't beat? Mayhem.
no evil character to block that hero you can't beat? Mayhem.
no LS to rescue on that same turn? Mayhem.
need to get grapes up so that you can stop their RA by killing their own EC? Mayhem.
Blocking when you have nothing to back up your EC and still want to stop your opponent? Mayhem.
and that last one doesn't work.
need a combo to make your opponent lose cuz itz pwnage wyn? Mayhem.

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2010, 06:51:05 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on January 17, 2010, 04:35:05 PM

I don't use 2-liner for the reason RR just stated, lol.

I refuse to use anything that can potentially backfire and give them more points.

With me, I have to. But i get grief because it isn't a 3-liner... who'da thunk it...

with ring. Grapes is situational. Mayhem you can get something to defeat the hero or whatnot and not shuffle their heros on defense. Mayhem>Grapes All the way....

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