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Offline Daniel

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Kony 2012
« on: March 08, 2012, 08:53:25 PM »
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 08:58:12 PM »
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I'm familiar with Kony, but I've been avoiding anything about it for the last few days. Isn't Invisible Children a scam?
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 08:59:48 PM »
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 09:02:56 PM »
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I posted this quote from a website on Facebook and I'll probably post it more places before this travesty of activism is over.

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1) The entire video is kind of an orgiastic celebration of white-saviourdom, which in turn plays on our tendency to discount the strength and agency of Ugandans who are actually fixing this on the ground, but aren't sitting on a $3 million budgetary surplus after they make sexy videos about "helping". Basically, I'm pretty offended that the video and the campaign is unabashedly about white people "saving Africa", when the best thing we can do is try to support Uganda as it saves itself. That's not even presented as a possibility in this thing, and the fact that it's not really about Ugandans seems to be okay by IC and many of their supporters.

2) Their proposed solution to the problem misrepresents both the problem itself, and any reasonable, possible way to solve it effectively. If Kony is arrested, children in Acholiland are exactly as well-off from this campaign as they were in 2006 when he fled Uganda. If the US military arms the Ugandan military (who are only more ethical than Kony by a matter of scale) to do this, they'll have to tramp through multiple long-standing and volatile geopolitical messes where they actually don't have any jurisdiction, and it's possible this will destabilize the area to the extent where it's possible there will be states fighting in Acholiland, not just militias.
Why don't they take this considerable hypemachine and point it towards helping Ugandan NGOs on the ground, who are effectively rehabilitating Acholi communities based on what the communities think needs to be done? The campaign is essentially leveraging a quater-century of horrible atrocities to get people excited about doing something that doesn't make much sense to the people affected.
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 01:14:06 AM »
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While you're at it post this as well....


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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 01:18:56 AM »
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I know the answer to that picture without looking it up and I'm not even pro-Invisible Children. #Superherostatus?
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 01:23:24 AM »
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I can point to Swaziland. Can you guys do that? I even know where the capital is inside of Swaziland.
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 01:24:17 AM »
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I can point to Swaziland. Can you guys do that?

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 01:28:49 AM »
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Well darn. I can also point to the USA on a world map.
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 01:31:20 AM »
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If you're interested in doing good, check out:
http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 01:33:32 AM »
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If you're interested in doing good, check out:
http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/


Do you know of anything that specifically deals with Joseph Kony and the situation in Uganda?

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 01:52:43 AM »
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I'm sick and tired of the whole "hyped charity of the month" thing.  Pick a cause and stick with it.  If you want to help Uganda, great!  Check out http://ugandanwaterproject.com/ (closest thing that comes to mind).  However, if the only time charity comes to mind is when some cause becomes popular (i.e. Kony), you need to look at your life and see if you really are fulfilling your commitment to the least of these.

(Note: This is not directed at Chronic, just venting my frustration with people in general).
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2012, 09:05:44 PM »
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At first I thought this was a good cause, then I realized the man in the banner header on the Invisible Children site is clearly the 11th Doctor. I don't have to do anything because he'll take care of it :D
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2012, 09:30:32 PM »
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Randall, so you're of the opinion that if I choose to give a little to multiple charities instead of a lot to one or two main ones, that I don't have a commitment to the "least of these"? Can you point me in the direction of the Biblical passage where Christ instructed us to "pick a cause and stick with it"? If I'm donating my money responsibly and with a glad heart, I don't see where you're allowed to judge my donation habits and declare them inferior.

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2012, 04:52:02 AM »
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Randall, so you're of the opinion that if I choose to give a little to multiple charities instead of a lot to one or two main ones, that I don't have a commitment to the "least of these"? Can you point me in the direction of the Biblical passage where Christ instructed us to "pick a cause and stick with it"? If I'm donating my money responsibly and with a glad heart, I don't see where you're allowed to judge my donation habits and declare them inferior.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Notice how I didn't say any of that.
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2012, 05:02:10 AM »
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Randall, so you're of the opinion that if I choose to give a little to multiple charities instead of a lot to one or two main ones, that I don't have a commitment to the "least of these"? Can you point me in the direction of the Biblical passage where Christ instructed us to "pick a cause and stick with it"? If I'm donating my money responsibly and with a glad heart, I don't see where you're allowed to judge my donation habits and declare them inferior.

Me thinks you are reaching. He's talking about the people who reposted this on facebook, maybe donated a little, and by now have probably completely forgotten about it. And those types of people will do the same thing the next time a pop-charity comes up. And the next time. and the next time. and the next time. and the... zzZzzzZzzz

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2012, 05:08:50 AM »
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How exactly would you sum up your post then Randall? You did distinctly say that people should "pick a cause and stick with it." You also implied that by only supporting causes that have become popular, a person might not be "fulfilling [their] commitment to the least of these." I don't really think it was too much of a stretch to get what I got from your post, and denying that you said anything in my post is simply not true. If your point is people "raising awareness," then refusing to make any actual self-sacrifice, then I apologize, because it's not what I got from your post. Either way, it's still not up to you (or anyone else) to judge someone else because of their perceived contributions (or lack thereof) to charity.

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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2012, 05:23:22 AM »
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I'm sick and tired of the whole "hyped charity of the month" thing.  Pick a cause and stick with it.  If you want to help Uganda, great!  Check out http://ugandanwaterproject.com/ (closest thing that comes to mind).  However, if the only time charity comes to mind is when some cause becomes popular (i.e. Kony), you need to look at your life and see if you really are fulfilling your commitment to the least of these.

(Note: This is not directed at Chronic, just venting my frustration with people in general).


Bolded the parts that answer your question Chronic.


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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2012, 05:26:53 AM »
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On an unrelated note, Olijar LOVE the new avatar. just started playing 7 again

Wait, wait, wait.
Janissary changed his avatar?
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Re: Kony 2012
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2012, 08:43:43 PM »
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I change my avatar approximately every year. Final Fantasy VII is the best game ever and I've been thinking about it a lot so it seemed like a good time to switch.
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