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I still largely oppose banning cards that aren't staples in virtually every deck, however, I'm less opposed to the idea as I was. That said, I don't think banning Sam is what needs to be done to level that out a bit. I think if we ban Angel Under the Oak, a lot of the big issues with Sam drop off, while keeping the offense itself viable. The issue isn't a massive banning chain with a D5 in there; we've had the banning chain for ages. The issue is that Angel lets you set up that banding chain ridiculous quickly, and throwing a D2 for the lulz. Genesis has settled down and isn't the powerhouse we originally thought it was. It's strong, yes, but I don't think Joseph needs to be banned, at least not until we see the effects neutering Sam (and possibly TGT/Gardensciples) has. Finally, instead of nuking TGT, what about Mary, Mother of James?
Sabbath Breaker should go too, for the exact same reason as Oak.
As much as I hate to say it (since it ruins my deck), I nominate Isaiah's Call. Negating Souls, sites, and ECs, site access, and the ability to recur Isaiah with all that make it extremely powerful.
I think Ishmaiah needs to go. There is no way fbtn should have access to more drawing.
Genesis might not be the powerhouse we thought it was, but with Sam and TGT knocked down a peg, I think it is very likely that it would become that powerhouse, but I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of testing to see if Genesis really would take over the meta without those themes before nerfing it.
The best TGT decks use John or Peter as often as MoJ. Banning MoJ won't really put a dent in Gardenciples.
Gates of Samaria. That thing's just crazy.
Woah, I'm surprised to see all these different things being thrown around. Usually when Type Ban is brought up, most people (especially ones who have no intention of playing TB) just say "NJ ONLY." That hasn't even been mentioned this time around.
Every respectable standalone defense uses Sabbath Breaker.
Ban Mayhem. ONLY.
Quote from: Chronic Apathy on February 02, 2012, 03:49:29 AM ban Gomer