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I added the into prep phase and clarification text to one of the rules.

I'm liking all your dream hands .

Also, a lot of people say they would want Hur.  Nice idea but is he already in your deck that you use?  This variation wasn't meant to make a deck that will slaughter everyone if you are able to chose your first seven cards but to take the decks you already have and see which deck, if both decks had their "dream hand" at the start, would win.

No Hur is not already in a deck that I usually use.  However if there was a version that allowed each player to set their first 8 cards, then that would be so powerful that attacking first with Hur to mess up the opponent's hand would be too critical to pass up.  In fact, I have to question the usefulness of a variant which everyone will be trying to destroy the very thing that made it a variant to begin with (the set opening hand)

Playing with this variation would necessarily mean that people would probably change at least a couple things about their decks.

With the new rules, I would change a couple things.  It is so critical to go first and Hur the opponent, that I think I'd put in an extra LS to make sure that I had 2 and could choose who started.  So...

LS Shuffler, LS Shame, Hur, Search, Jacob, Captain of the Host, Lampstand of the Sanctuary, The Amelekites Slave
1st attack - Hur to mess up their dream hand, search to get the battle winner
1st defense - TAS to get Nebucadnezzar, to get the battle winner
2nd attack - Jake+CotH, who needs battle winners
2nd defense - Nebby to get another battle winner

Quote from: Ironica on September 21, 2009, 08:19:22 PM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on September 21, 2009, 06:58:47 AM

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 21, 2009, 06:55:43 AM

Also, the Hopper is not allowed...

Hopper is not allowed to be the LS that can be rescued by anyone.  The rules didn't say it couldn't be one of the other 7 cards.

The good professor is correct. 

So wait, does that make me the bad Professor? Or just a neutral Professor? Since clearly I misunderstood, I am not the good, correct professor. That kind of hurts.

You're implying that the Professor title is like the hilander title, and treating it like there can only be one... so I ask you, can there not be TWO good professors?

What is Weakness gonna do?

Hey,

Is this a good way to test two decks going against each other?

I don't think so.  I think the quality of a deck is best determined by how well a deck does with a below average opening draw.  How well it does with the best possible draw is largely irrelevant because it happens so infrequently.  (I think this is one of the most common deck building misconceptions that players have.)

My single color site and Household Idols would definitely be in my ideal opening hand.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Yeah, I'm a HUGE fan of green, my nats deck was half green and my deck this year (might) be green. But I don't use Hur... I only would if it was this game type. If someone said, "okay, turns out we're not playing type I 2P, we're playing dream hand," then no, I wouldn't be able to use Hur.

I understand where you're going with that, but banding is pretty easy to disband or discard all, especially with a dream hand.

Hm... on the note of zebulen... King of Tyrus, Demon Discarder Soul, Red Dragon, Levi, Simon, Zebulen, Sarah, Garrison. Now that's tough to beat.

Hey,

If both decks get a "dream hand" then confusion of mind would be a very good card to choose.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

1/1 white guy or lowest # currently out
Love at first sight
Trans
Words
Gifts
Zimri
Crimson enhacment
Revealer ls

* if ls dosen't count as 8 than i would add Covenat with moses

Mess up thier hand get a 8 new cards my self get moses out, Have auto block in hand and enough drawing that my intital card burn won't hurt to much

You may want to make a rule about sites, as my first hand would involve a site lockout.

Depending on the access, that could be negated.