Author Topic: The Dream Hand (Read 5699 times)

Ironica · « **on:** September 19, 2009, 09:09:44 AM »

A while ago, I was thinking of trying this with my decks to really test them (haven't yet though).

The idea is that you can chose what your first hand will be. This way, there won't be any LS overage with no defense (unless you chose to pick no defense). It is also good to test your strongest cards against your opponent's strongest. Here's the small list of rules.

-One of the eight cards in your dream hand has to be a lost soul that anyone can rescue (i.e. it can not be the female/NT/*4/etc). It also can not be the Hopper lost soul or 2/3 liners (the point is to be able to completely rescue a lost soul your first turn with your dream hand).

-Your beginning hand can not have any dominants in it.

-The rest of the deck will remain random (including the card(s) that you draw to replace your lost soul(s)).

-The opening prep phase is in place. The only exception is that no art/fortress can be put down on the first round that directly affects your opponent's art/fortresses (e.g. Capture Art, Covenant with Moses)

-The rest of the rules for starting remains the same

Whatcha think? Is this a good way to test two decks going against each other?

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #1 on:** September 19, 2009, 10:02:01 AM »

Sounds like a good idea as long as you aren't allowed to start with dominants.

Ironica · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:26:05 PM »

Quote from: Tsavong Lah on September 19, 2009, 10:02:01 AM

Sounds like a good idea as long as you aren't allowed to start with dominants.

Good point. I added it.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:29:12 PM »

That would be pretty schweetness.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:37:01 PM »

I'd have Hur/Gifts in my starting hand.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:40:40 PM »

Yeah, I have to say, this would be totally perfect for speed.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:41:34 PM »

Nah. Hur was more for messing up my opponent's dream hand..... Gifts was just a little extra.

Ironica · « **Reply #7 on:** September 19, 2009, 06:27:06 PM »

I would probably add the into prep phase idea as well so the person who is going second would sill be able to fully use their defense. The onl exception I would add is that no lost souls can be put into a site the first turn.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #8 on:** September 19, 2009, 06:43:11 PM »

Hur, Search, Gifts, Plague of Frogs, Naaman, Naaman's Chariot and Horses, False Peace, Moses

Smokey · « **Reply #9 on:** September 19, 2009, 06:48:21 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 19, 2009, 06:43:11 PM

Hur, Search, Gifts, Plague of Frogs, Naaman, Naaman's Chariot and Horses, False Peace, Moses

Abom, High-Places, Antiochus, Winged Leopard, Mayhem, Martha, Meeting the Messiah, Generous Widow.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #10 on:** September 19, 2009, 06:51:01 PM »

Mayhem is a dominant. Also, your opponent probably won't have many items in their territory at the beginning of the game.

Ironica · « **Reply #11 on:** September 19, 2009, 08:48:25 PM »

You two are also forgetting an important rule

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One of the eight cards in your dream hand has to be a lost soul that anyone can rescue (i.e. it can not be the female/NT/*4/etc). It also can not be the Hopper lost soul or 2/3 liners (the point is to be able to completely rescue a lost soul your first turn with your dream hand).

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #12 on:** September 19, 2009, 09:05:02 PM »

I'd probably go with Hur, Gifts, Search, Plague of Frogs, Sabbath Breaker, False Peace, Momentum Change, and the Wanderer.

sk · « **Reply #13 on:** September 19, 2009, 09:11:56 PM »

Demon d/c LS, DoU, Confusion, PG Panic Demon, TGT, No Need for Spices, Mary Mother of James, Salome

The Guardian · « **Reply #14 on:** September 19, 2009, 09:28:02 PM »

Quote from: sk on September 19, 2009, 09:11:56 PM

Demon d/c LS, DoU, Confusion, PG Panic Demon, TGT, No Need for Spices, Mary Mother of James, Salome

TGT doesn't do much unless the opponent gets a LS from you...

sk · « **Reply #15 on:** September 19, 2009, 09:34:39 PM »

Right, but I'd still want it out in case they get one via a drawn or searched dominant, plus the band is pretty nice to have straight up. And it makes a good red herring to take the CM/HP/Fort kill.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:01:47 AM »

High Places, Abom, Antiochus, Hur, Gifts, PO, Generous Widow, Hormah.

lightningninja · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:05:05 AM »

Mayhem is a dominant.

I'd definitely take Hur... the rest would be tough.

The Guardian · « **Reply #18 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:16:49 AM »

This really kind of depends on who is going first but...

I'll take Tribal Elder, Jacob, Captain of the Host, Lampstand of the Sanctuary, The Tabernacle, Captured Ark, Messenger of Satan and Confusion.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #19 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:49:34 AM »

I would go with Hur, Search, Jacob, CotH, LotS, KoT, The Amelekites Slave, Captured Ark, Hopper LS, Generic LS

The first turn you attack with Hur to mess up their super hand, then play Search to get what you need to win LS #1.
Then you block with A-Slave to create another LS to take the next turn with Jake+CotH for LS #2 (TAS).
You get Gomer out of you deck and band in KoT to stop your opponent.
On turn 3 you go back in with Jake+CotH again to win LS #3 (Hopper).

Most of the time, this will get you 3 LSs (without even using AotL) and mean you only need to win 1 more to play SoG/NJ ftw.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #20 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:51:59 AM »

Problem is that Zeb can't activate when theres a non-gen down, so if you lay down Hur, Jake, and Captain, Zeb is useless.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #21 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:55:43 AM »

Also, the Hopper is not allowed...

The Guardian · « **Reply #22 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:57:01 AM »

And you did nothing to mess up my super hand except to let me draw 6 extra cards

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #23 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:58:47 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on September 21, 2009, 06:51:59 AM

Problem is that Zeb can't activate when theres a non-gen down, so if you lay down Hur, Jake, and Captain, Zeb is useless.

Good point. Zeb's probably out then.

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 21, 2009, 06:55:43 AM

Also, the Hopper is not allowed...

Hopper is not allowed to be the LS that can be rescued by anyone. The rules didn't say it couldn't be one of the other 7 cards.

***Original idea modified***

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #24 on:** September 21, 2009, 04:26:49 PM »

I'd search out mayhem and have anb and hurt in my hand in case.

My dream hand.

Hur, Anb, Search(Mayhem!), Huge e, e horses, e archers, e spear, Wonders forgotten.

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